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Stephanie Foster: Welcome to the Life Handmade podcast by Scrapbook.com this is the show for paper crafters and I'm your host Stephanie Foster. Today we are speaking with Shimelle Laine and you are going to hear all about her scrapbooking journey from the very first scrapbook she created to the struggles she faced in discovering her personal voice and unique scrapbooking style. We're going to hear about the inspiration behind her earliest collections and we'll talk about her latest release too. She also provides some much needed advice for those of us who struggle to find time to scrapbook in day to day life.
Stephanie Foster: We are so excited to have Shimelle in the studio today. Shimelle grew up in Kansas City and has been living in London for over 20 years now. She has a love for all things Disney and has worked as an editor for Scrapbook Inspirations Magazine and Idea Books. She teaches online scrapbooking journaling and crafting classes and has designed for several companies over the past years and is releasing her newest collection this month with American Crafts. She's been a designer for American Crafts for over five years now, and this is her 12th collection. So we're excited to be talking to her about that too. So welcome Shimelle we're excited to have you on the podcast today!
Shimelle Laine: Thank you so much for having me.
Stephanie Foster: You are so welcome. So let's get started with how your scrapbooking journey began. When, when did you first kind of create your first scrapbook? Can you take us back to that day?
When Did You Create Your First Scrapbook?
Shimelle Laine: Yeah, so my first scrapbook was the autumn of 1998. Um, yeah, I made an album and I can't even, you know how if you have your first album and you kind of cringe when you look at it. I can't hide it because it was a gift for someone else, so I can't even be like, oh, let's not look at that anymore. No, I gave it away. So what happened was, um, I, in my undergrad I studied theater and I was in a play. They use this script to be in a film as well. So it's called Crimes of the Heart and it's a really small cast. So we felt like we had this little ensemble thing and we did a lot of working as a group, um, like kind of getting into character or working with the director who wanted you to try to do a lot of things that didn't have to do with the script. So we would go to her house and we would cook dinner together and then, um, like eat dinner in character and prepare the dinner in character.
Shimelle Laine: And we realized that she was really driving us, not just to create a lovely play, which was really just kind of driving us as, as being better humans. And it was very touching and we decided the only thing that really would be lovely enough for her would be that if we made something that was a book for her. So we decided we would make this scrapbook. And so, um, there was a scene in the play where one of the actors uses a nutcracker and just the whole time he's talking through the whole monologue, he cracks pecans on the stage. And so we had this never ending pile of cracked nutshells and I glued them all to a piece of paper and put them in a page protector. We made lemonade on stage every night. And so I put lemonade packets, I would tape every night's lemonade packet into this page and everybody wrote a letter and we put together this album and then we gave it to her on our closing night.
Stephanie Foster: That's neat. So, so you went from making your very first scrapbook and then how many years later were you designing for teams and magazines?
Scrapbook Design Teams and Magazines
Shimelle Laine: About a year and a half later. It was not long. This was the day of contests and applying for like page calls and stuff. So there were a few magazines by that point. And the hall of fame existed from Creating Keepsakes. So I applied.
Stephanie Foster: Were you in the hall of fame?
Shimelle Laine: I was in the hall of fame.
Stephanie Foster: What year?
Shimelle Laine: So I was 2001 and I applied in 2000 so that would have been while I was studying. And um, I didn't do it with any intention of winning. I did it because I liked the idea if they asked you not to create pages for the call, but to go through what you've made in the past year and choose your eight favorites and then make a little photocopy and put them all on a grid and send them in the post.
Shimelle Laine: Can you imagine this is like the dark ages. You had to find somewhere that had a color printer that you could do this on because we didn't all have color printers in our houses. Um, yeah. And so you would print out the layouts at this smaller size and make a little portfolio basically and send it in and had, I wonder if the pages that I making, which ones do I really like the most? I liked this as an exercise, so I'll just go through and I thought to myself that I will just make this a yearly thing that once a year I review the pages I've made and I choose my either favorites and I make this, I'll go ahead and send them in because maybe one day I'll, I'll, I'll be like an honorable mention. So the first year I didn't get anything back. The second year I entered again.
Shimelle Laine: But with that whole intention that I had no idea, no plans to try and win. I wasn't trying to make anything extra fancy. I was just picking my favorites. And then there was another magazine called Paper Kuts and they put out a call for something they were going to call the Paper Kuts Dream Team. No, the Paper Kuts Power Team. And I thought, okay well I can send in the same layouts. There's nothing in the rules that say you can't apply for both. If I'm sending one letter I might as well send two. So I sent the same little portfolio of pages to the two magazines because I had no intention of winning. And I thought maybe with Paper Kuts I'll apply it. And they published a lot more like reader submissions and I thought maybe if they like what it looks like from the little portfolio, then maybe once it once in a while I could get one layout in or you know, it can't hurt.
Shimelle Laine: So I did that and then I won both. And I, it's still like I look back and I'm like, what, what happened then? I don't understand. I don't know. And it became like kind of their first grownup drama I'd ever had in my life. I was very, very young. Um, and yeah, I, I, I didn't know what to do. And the two companies were kind of going, well one was saying you have to pick. And the other one was saying, no, please do both. And I was like, I, I don't know, this is pretty weird and I'm dealing with editors when I've never had even a single page published. And suddenly you feel like we're going to publish everything you make, um, and it was very confusing. And so in the end, um, I was in the hall of fame book, but then I didn't do much extra work for Creating Keepsakes, but I then was in every issue of Paper Kuts with multiple layouts.
Shimelle Laine: Like sometimes I was doing a dozen layouts per month just for them.
Stephanie Foster: Wow. That's impressive.
Shimelle Laine: Um, so yeah, and it was a great boost cause it was right as I was finishing my degree, I didn't have a job yet. Um, cause I still did not know what I wanted to be when I grew up. Um, so I was like, well, if you're going to pay me to do layouts every month, I'm going to do as many as you will take because I need to keep these lights on. Um, and so that's, that's what I did. And so I did this year long contract where I had lots and lots of layouts every issue.
Stephanie Foster: How fun. So as you started submitting all of these layouts and doing work for others, what, what was one of your biggest challenges initially with that?
The Biggest Challenge in Scrapbooking
Shimelle Laine: Um, initially it was really funny. Um, I didn't have kids and I wasn't married and this made me really like a beautiful and unique snowflake in the scrapbooking world. People in that day and age, people were like, no. Scrapbookers are mothers and grandmothers and they are scrapbooking photos of their children. And I was scrapbooking photos. Either I was in them or they were just things we scrapbook like landmarks and mountains and you know, anywhere I went I would take random pictures of pretty things that I saw around I scrapbooked a picture of a flower growing in a boot. And to me that was like a really cool thing to take a picture of. And then people were like, yeah, no one's going to connect with this. I'm like, Oh, Oh, okay. So then I would get all these assignments and they would say, this needs to be photos of children at a birthday party. This needs to be photos of children at a park. This needs to be a baby, this needs to be, but I didn't have children.
Shimelle Laine: So for a lot of my early assignments I borrowed photos of other people's kids and then made up the journaling about those children. Um, so it's essentially like making, like using stock photos. But I was using photos that people had given to me with permission to use them.
Stephanie Foster: So it was truly kind of more of a job and work than really getting to create and express for yourself.
Shimelle Laine: And I think I didn't have the confidence quite yet to say, but this is me and you hired me for me. There weren't kids in any of the layouts that I submitted. You knew that I scrapbook, you know, flowers and shoes. Why not?
Shimelle Laine: Um, so either you like what I do or you don't. And now I certainly have the confidence to say that. I love that.
Stephanie Foster: And I bet it felt so different to create for that where you're creating and expressing yourself and being authentic and telling your story instead of doing that for someone else.
Being Authentic in Scrapbooking
Shimelle Laine: Well, and it was weird because when I was making pages for magazines, it wasn't that I wasn't making those pages, but I felt like I had to keep the pages that were about me secret. And um, I feel like we don't have that culture in scrapbooking anymore and that it is fine. Um, when I first started posting pictures or posting layouts online, and this would've been around 2000-2001, I would get really quite catty comments about the fact that I was in my photos and I went to a crop once where somebody said something that was horrific.
Shimelle Laine: And now of course, you know, when you do that thing where somebody says something to you and then 20 minutes later you have the perfect response. That 20 minutes has been the whole rest of my life. So I went to a crop and she, I don't think she, she wasn't being mean, she said this honestly as her gut reaction and her gut reaction was mean and she didn't realize it. So she, I was kind of being introduced to her and cause the other ladies at the crop all knew each other and I was the newbie. Um, and somebody else had invited me and they are being very friendly and she introduced me to the hostess and she was looking at my album and my album was kind of very different styles than hers I had a lot of color and pattern and she was a little bit more kind of white backgrounds and rounded edges and that sort of thing.
Shimelle Laine: And um, she just looked at my album and then she went, wait, so you're not married? No. And you don't have kids. No. So what do you have to put in a scrapbook?
Stephanie Foster: Oh my goodness.
Shimelle Laine: And that like hit me, I had to leave the room. I was like, well, hi, this is my life and that is not what defines me. And it was like, this woman did not mean, this as a philosophical question, but I'm having a breakthrough now. So in the years that followed, it just kind of sat at the back of my mind and in the bottom of my heart kind of welling up and making me realize that the more I got published and the more I had the ability to kind of set my own agenda and say no to things because saying no to things is, is a very powerful thing because when you start something new, you say yes to everything because you're terrified that if you say no, it'll be the thing that you should have done.
Shimelle Laine: And it's all gone now. So you say yes to too much. Um, and so I would get to the point where I would start saying no and saying no, either it's my way or, or we don't do this, we do something else. Um, and I started feeling like I can't be the only person who has been in that place where somebody either outright said, what do you have described or implied - What do you have to scrapbook? And those people need a voice. And so I tried my best to be that voice. I could. Um, the, the flip side of it is that when I did get married and have children, some people really said that I had like left them high and dry.
Stephanie Foster: Uh, no, you can't please everyone.
Shimelle Laine: No and I was like, I really, that was never my intention. But equally we just scrapbook our lives, whatever is in our lives. So when I did not have a child, I obviously did not scribe children. I didn't have one to scrapbook and now I do. It's quite fun to scrapbook him. But I had scrapbooked, you know, for 18 years without one. So I have told a lot of stories that are just about me. So it's fun now to tell the stories where I am, the chapter that's me as the mom.
Stephanie Foster: And how much will your, you know, child appreciate those stories that he has, you know, that you've told over those years? I remember back in the day I did an all about me kind of album and it was weird. I never shared it with anyone but like I was turning 30 that year and so I put in all my favorite things and what I was watching at the time or you know, my day to day activities are, and it has been fun for my kids to go back and like, I don't know it, it is neat because you just capture a moment in time if nothing else. But I just think it tells the story as, as we as scrapbookers just love to do.
Memory Keeping For Your Children
Shimelle Laine: My son loves looking through the album where I was a kid and he loves looking through the album of some of the stuff that my husband and I did before he came around. Um, he particularly likes the travel albums and seeing all the places we have been and then picking out, okay, can we go back here? Can we go back there? Cause I want to see that place too. So that's really lovely.
Stephanie Foster: That's neat. Well, what tips would you give to our listeners for how they can stay true to themselves when they're creating layouts or trying to find their voice in their journaling or in their scrapbooks?
Shimelle Laine: About journaling the thing that, that really, my mother is a musician and she has this little thing that she posts on Facebook like a lot. It repeats often and it's a conversation between an audience member and a musician. And the audience member says, you're so talented. It must be just a gift. I can't believe how, how lucky you are to have that. And the musician says it's practice and the audience member says, no, no, no. There's, there's just, you transcend. There is something that you do that other people just don't have. Yes, it's, it's practice. And I know there's, there's just something else. And then the musician gets really mad and says, all I do is practice. And so, um, I think with writing there's something that's quite intimidating about us starting and we feel like the first words that we ever write down, would be viewed by the public.
Shimelle Laine: And if you think of that in the terms of a performer, unless you're an improv artist and musician does not go out and perform a violin concerto, reading the sheet music for the first time, that is not how it works. So don't feel like the first time you write on a page, it has to be this giant. You know, you're not going to write War and Peace on your first layout, but keep a journal where you write little bits and pieces that are just for you. And if you write a little bit every day or every couple of days, every week, it will grow and grow and grow. That's your practice. Um, and I think it's really important to have a place to write that other people are not feeling, don't let other people view it. And it doesn't mean you need to be writing secrets that you don't want other people to see.
Shimelle Laine: It's because it's your safe space to practice. And if you go back and read it, if we all went back and read stuff we read when we were teenagers, we would cringe. Right? Right. And it doesn't mean that we were wrong when we were teenagers. That was our life then. And we will write things now that we will go back and be like, Oh gosh. And like people tell me like, people who have multiple children go back and be like, I can't believe I was so concerned about every tiny little detail with the first child. You know, by the time you have three, they're eating mud and it's fine. Yeah. This is what I'm told. And so, um, yeah, we do all these other things and then we, we try to create a different standard of our scrapbook pages. So I think really, yeah, practice and don't worry about what you're writing when you're drafting.
Shimelle Laine: Um, and then I journal about things and you can, it depends on what your flow is. If you write better with a pen and pencil or, or on your phone or an iPad or whatever, if you'd like to type, if you like to tap it away, um, if you want to use, um, a voice recorder and just write it and then dictate it out later. But I keep notes in a little journal and then when I want to make a page, I often will revisit that note. Now, I don't always, sometimes I can remember enough that I go, okay, no, I know where I want to go with this, but it's almost always got this breathing space to it. So, um, I will have written about it and left it a while, a little while or a long while, and then I go back to it and then the story flushes out and it gets better because I've drafted and redrafted, which is exactly what you would tell a writer.
Shimelle Laine: So why do we hold ourselves higher to a higher standard than somebody who's a published author? We're so harsh on ourselves. So be kind and practice.
Stephanie Foster: And write something down. Sometimes the fear of not writing the right thing keeps us from writing and something is better than nothing. Okay. So with that, and I love that, you know, you're telling your own story where you're starting to scrapbook, what is meaningful to you. Tell me how that's flowed into your collections that you've done for American Crafts.
Shimelle Laine For American Crafts
Shimelle Laine: So every collection I've done with American Crafts has its starting point in some sort of life story from my history. Um, so I would say that the first collection is kind of the most wide and esoteric because when you do one collection, you don't know if that's going to be the only one or if you're going to carry on to the point where originally um, I have this thing where I have always defined scrapbooking as pretty paper and true stories.
Shimelle Laine: That's kind of been my thing. So my idea was that we would do two collections and the first one would be pretty paper and the second one would be true stories. And we designed the first one to all be like that. And then we knew the first one was going to be, um, a lot of pinks, a lot of golds and everything. And then the second one was going to be these blues and reds and silver because we had this plan that we needed to introduce things to the market. We couldn't go too far from what was selling because you're always talking to a shop about what they want to buy and they want to buy what their customers are buying. And that is more of the same basically. So we needed to have a safety zone and that was, we were in the pink and aqua and gold phase of scrapbooking.
Shimelle Laine: So my first collection has a lot of pink, aqua and gold. And then we, our plan was if at that meets our targets, the second collection will be the things we are not seeing in stores that I wish we could see in stores. And I wanted a more true rainbow of color and I wanted silver for some reason we were gold mad and there was no silver. Um, and I always wear white toned jewelry, like silvery type jewelry. And I kept having these pictures and I'm like I can't use the gold foil stickers cause I'm wearing silver in the picture and my brain can't cope with that. There was a need, there was a need. And a funny thing we found was, cause I did a gold album in the first collection, I did a silver glitter album in the second collection and we had stores come up to us going, Oh thank goodness, because the high schools in my town, we have one that's a gold and one that is silver and the ones who have kids at this silver like why don't you have an album for me?
Shimelle Laine: And so I thought that was so funny and then Never Grow Up is what we're on today.
Stephanie Foster: Now can you tell us a little bit about that collection?
Shimelle Laine: So Never Grow Up and is a collection that when you first look at, it looks like a very child hood type collection. It has a lot of outdoors-y elements. It has a tree house, it has little creatures, it has, you know, a butterfly net and butterflies that you could catch in it and a little jar that you might've caught something in and then please let it go later. But anyway, a different, yeah, a little quite nostalgic childhood. Not, not necessarily like a, definitely an unplugged childhood, let's call it that. So it could be of any time, but it is very much let's run in the fields and let's climb trees and let's catch creatures, nature and yeah.
Shimelle Laine: Um, and then there's a dog in there and the dog in my mind is Nana from Peter Pan.
Stephanie Foster: Oh, okay.
Shimelle Laine: Because there are no adults throughout this collection. There are children and there are no adults. So the dog is there to be their minder. She's their nurse. This is Nana the dog. So, okay. But of course when I just, I stuff like this, I don't expect anybody to realize any of this. It's just what helps me flow through. Like you've got to get ideas from somewhere. And so to me it's always a little story.
Stephanie Foster: And this is why I love the background stories so we can hear kind of where it came from. So it means a lot more when you're looking through that beautiful paper of like, Oh, this is where she was inspired, you know, what she was inspired by. So thank you. I love that. Um, okay. So we have to ask you a few questions that we ask of every guest and to start out with, what is your go to product right now that you use the most or use your favorite or you're passionate about?
Shimelle's Go-To Craft Supply
Shimelle Laine: Well, the thing, it's such a silly little product, but um, enamel dots or anything else that can be used as like a small little confetti piece. I cannot finish a page without them because to me I need some sort of little detail like that to sprinkle it on. And it's almost like a visual cue to me that says, okay, now it's done.
Stephanie Foster: Oh, I'll have to look for that now on all your layouts,
Shimelle Laine: There's always this little sprinkling of something, um, just to, to make it finished. And it is something that when I work with scrapbookers who are saying, you know, here's what I make and I just wished my pages were kind of bumped up to the next level kind of thing. Um, and that's often something that, that we do. The two things I do the most often are, I say, move this stuff closer together. So that your title is not floating away from the other things. Just bring it closer together. Big spaces don't work. Bring it closer together so it flows and then add this little sprinkling to the end. It's just to give a little life and make it not so static. Gives it a little bit of bounce.
Stephanie Foster: Great tips. Okay. What tip do you have for saving time when crafting or when you want to make something that you don't have a ton of time to sit down and spread everything out or you just want to get something done quickly?
How To Scrapbook With Limited Time
Shimelle Laine: Well part of it, I think it's a two part question and I really learned the most about part one when um, when my son was tiny and didn't go to school, which was, I went from being able to be like in the zone and scrapbooking all day, uninterrupted to 10 minutes seems like the biggest amount of time I've ever had in my life.
Shimelle Laine: So I learned to make things in little pieces. So don't feel like you have to be able to sit down and make a whole page or you're not going to bother because if that happens, then you're not going to bother with scrapbooking. The end. So true. So come up with small things that you can do. Make a tag, make an embellishment grouping and it will take some time to get to the idea that if you make these small little things, you can then use them to create a finished page because we're not used to using that way using things that way. Normally most scrapbookers look at the background and build up. What I'm suggesting you do is you look, you start with the photo and work back to the background. So if you have a photo, so one time you have five minutes, you give it a couple photo mats and a little index tab and then you just leave it on your desk and you walk away.
Shimelle Laine: You put it in the drawer and you walk away. The next time you have 10 minutes, you come back to it and you stick a title on the side of it and you put it in the desk and you walk away and you come back and you're like, okay, now what? You know, maybe I need a big box of patterned paper. And you go through and you choose a big box of patterned paper and you put that on and you walk away.
Shimelle Laine: By the way, tiny little tip. One thing that always speeds me up is that if you find something that will work, that is what you're using. Do not keep looking, stop. It's like stop, drop and roll glue. You're going to do it. Um, yeah, because we can all look through. We could look through your entire warehouse of patterned paper and then be like, but what if this is not the perfect paper?
Shimelle Laine: It does not need to be the perfect paper. If it works, keep it and go. So working on those tiny little bits and then suddenly you'd be like, Oh Hey, I finished the whole page, put that in my album and now I start again and I get the photo. And I had a little bit at a time. That was a game changer.
Shimelle Laine: The other thing about time is that you've just got to be honest with yourself. If you tell somebody that you have no time to scrapbook but you then have a conversation about this amazing TV show you watch, it's not that you don't have time, it's that you have chosen something else over scrapbooking, which is fine, but we need, it's just how it is. It's not scrapbooking specific. It's all about our whole lives and we all need balance. And if creating something is going to make you feel better than sometimes it's worth either watching your Netflix while you scrapbook or skip the Netflix. It's still going to be there next week. That's the beauty of Netflix.
Shimelle Laine: And I make the page today because we all can get caught up in this little trap where we go, Oh, I don't have any time because, but we find other things. Um, and for years we didn't have a television in our house and we still don't have a television, but now we have Netflix. So it doesn't matter if we don't have a television, but, um, when people would be like, I can't believe you can make so many pages, how do you find the time? And I'd just go, Oh, I don't have a television. And they would just look at me like I had three heads. And I'm like, well, you know, that's when you would sit down to watch TV. I would scrapbook because that was when I had a full time, normal job outside of scrapbooking. And so I definitely had to make time, but I just chose what I wanted to do.
Stephanie Foster: Okay. What is the most meaningful handmade project that you have created?
Shimelle Laine: Created? Oh, I'm not sure it, I kind of feel like what I make is this one ongoing thing. So I, I'm up to just shy of 80 albums.
Stephanie Foster: Oh wow.
Shimelle Laine: That's what I have in my, in my world. And to me it's like writing your life story and that in England people don't know what scrapbooking is. So, um, and in fact, if you say scrapbooking, they get an image in their mind of, um, in the 70s of people cutting out like pop stars from magazines or sports stars and then pasting them into a book like you're pasting onto your wall. Um, and so then like, that's a job. I'm like, Oh, no, no, not like that.
Shimelle Laine: No, not pictures. David Cassidy. Yeah. Okay. Um, so, um, I stopped using the word scrapbooking to describe when people would say, Oh, what do you do for a living? Um, and I went through various different things and the thing that seemed to click was I would say, Oh, well, I help people who are kind of crafty to write their life story in a, in a crafty sort of way. And we use their photos and we use pretty paper and we use stickers and they write the story of their lives and the story of their family. And that is something that's universal and people understand that. Um, so then it doesn't feel like, yeah, it doesn't feel so, I dunno, it doesn't have uh, an artificial attitude about it because everybody kind of gets that. And if paper and stickers are your sort of thing, it's, it feels in the description, it feels secondary.
Shimelle Laine: So people are like, Oh, so you just play with stickers for living. I don't get that. I get, Oh that sounds cool. And you must meet interesting people with interesting stories and I do meet interesting people with interesting stories.
Stephanie Foster: So, and it's such a meaningful thing to be able to document your life story. So, so your albums you would say?
Shimelle Laine: Yeah, I have like a library and it is, it's too much to pass on, which I'm very aware of cause I am, I mean I've been doing this a long time and I am quite prolific because I have to be or, or I would not have a job. So, um, I keep a list, a master list for my family. You know, which album it's tucked into, which gives them instructions on which pages I would prefer for them to keep. And they can set the rest free and burn them, recycle them.
Stephanie Foster: You can never have too many scrapbooks.
Shimelle Laine: Send them into space would be awesome. But you know.
Stephanie Foster: What would you say is the most meaningful handmade gift that you've received from someone else?
Shimelle Laine: So the thing that just absolutely gobsmacked me was, um, a few years ago I photographed a wedding for a friend who is a knitter. Um, and she was a scrapbooker when I met her. That's how I met her. Um, but she has since become quite the knitter. She's very accomplished. And uh, when we, when she was getting ready, she came out with this gift for me and I thought she was carrying something she'd knit for herself cause I knew she was knitting a wedding shawl she's going to wear in the evening. Um, and the color of it, when she had it in her hands, I thought, I don't, I don't, I'm surprised that she would pick that color.
Shimelle Laine: She hadn't, she had knit me a sweater in a pattern that I really liked and had always complimented her on when she wore it. And it is like the coziest thing I've ever owned. Um, and to, to be, you know, like even like with this scrapbook page, even if I made somebody a scrapbook page that's only going to be a few hours of my time, she knit me an entire sweater. It means a lot of time of thinking about that. Um, yeah. So yeah, it every time I wear it I just kinda think my goodness, the amount of work that went into this.
Stephanie Foster: What a beautiful gift. Yeah, I love it. Well thank you. We are out of time. I feel like we could just talk for another hour but we are out of time but we want to thank you for spending some time with us in the studio today.
Shimelle Laine: An absolute pleasure. Thank you for having.
Stephanie Foster: Thank you.
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