Username Post: Checking myself against the general population.        (Topic#1507729)
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What is the general opinion on siting sources when scraplifting?

What about product use?

As a sometimes writer/blogger and former Language Arts Major, I'm (possibly) too quick to call out when someone has not sited the orginal piece from which they scrap lifted. We all create from love; so I think it's a big point to share when you've been inspired by someone else's love.

I really appreciate when people note the products they used because sometimes I see an object that is covet-worthy and I simply must know if it's possible to find more of it for myself.



Your thoughts?


 
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If I scraplift, I share who made the original. I figure it's only fair, the other person deserves to be recognized for inspiration.

And I too love it when someone shares the product they used. I have gone nuts trying to figure out who made a specific product in a layout or project more than I care to mention.


 
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The only thing I consistently fail to note in products used is solid cardstock. Everyone has their favorite in a color really close. It's everything else that I simply MUST HAVE... at that particular moment, if not six weeks later.


 
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I'm new to this, but I really like looking at the different products people have used, so I try to include as much info as I can myself. I can't always remember where some of my stuff (like a random red brad or white silk flower) comes from, though, but I'm not sure anyone cares about that. And I don't know if anyone cares about whatever cheap acrylic paint I've used. I also really like when people explain what they've done to make the layout. And of course sources should always be cited, says the librarian.
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I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad about not listing my products, because HALF the time I can't find the things,,,,

as far as scraplifting, I DO give credit on the rare occasions I get inspiration from someone else,,

but I begin to wonder how long and how many lo's I must give credit for a style that seems to be evolving into my OWN style,,,,KWIM???


 
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I know what you mean, Holly. I'd feel comfortable with siting the source the first time, for sure. Once the style makes a regular appearance on LO's cards, what-have-you, I've noticed it takes on the personality of the "artist."

Sigh...

What's really got me a hair's width wiggy was a trip to the gallery. One girl/woman (I'm sure I don't know) said exactly that she "stole" the LO design from another artist on this site; never even appeared to consider siting her source. THAT.... feels like ants having a picnic under my nails.


 
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sometimes you forget exactly who inspired you, and I've seen that handled quite well,,,,

I've seen people say "I can't cite my source, because I forget, so if anyone knows who the original belongs to please inform me so that I may give her credit"

I think that at least shows a WILLINGNESS to give credit,,,,,,

otherwise, STEALING is a good word,,,,,,


 
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That makes sense! I can insert benefit of the doubt that maybe she forgot... but didn't word it that way in all her excitement of creating something pretty.

Thank you for the perspective! I needed that1

Much like I need these clocks!


 
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HMPHS,,,,,,you're nicer than I,,,,,she SHOULD have worded it right,,,,,she could have at least said "I stole it but I forgot from who",,

shrugs,,,,,,it happens though, some people don't think it's rude to totally lift a LO and not give credit,,,,,,,,its just not something that bothers them,,,,


 
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I think that if you can remember where you got an idea or inspiration, then as a general rule of thumb, if it is so conscious that you remember and try it out yourself than you should mention the source, even if you don't remember the particular details. This is how I do it so that I can maintaing a personal sense of integrity about what I do. That way *I* know that I am being clear about what is mine and what is only partly mine. Sometimes, I know almost nothing about where I got the idea, only that I had seen it somewhere before in which case I will write in my description something along the lines of : I tried this out after I saw it recently on a blog that I went to (can't remember the name, sorry!)

SOmetimes I am shocked by the things that I see that clearly I have seen somewhere else and credit isn't given. It's not something that gets me all fired up or anything, but it definitely leaves a bad taste in my mouth if you know what I mean. It definitely makes me look at those people differently after that.


 
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I do a lot of lifting and I always try to give credit where credit is due and I always try to list my products and even the fonts I use because I know I appreciate seeing others list what they used.


 
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I always give credit where it is due. Seems only fair. Not only that, but I drop a line to the person I lifted just to say.. hey I lifted your LO come check it out and thanks for the inspiration. No one cares if you lift a LO. Everyone does it from time to time. And everyone recognizes that in most cases, you are using it like a sketch and often the two look very different in the end. BUT it is only polite to cite your source.

When I first started posting online.. I wasn't always as careful about remembering exactly who I got stuff from or what products. But I too appreciate when folks list their products. If I see something I really like, I immediately put the stuff on my wishlist.

Now I keep a running list. I have a notebook with my sketch notes in it.. like how many photos I need and what size.. what colors I want to use.. whatever. I now keep a running tab of items I use, cause if I wait till I'm finished, I might forget stuff. If I'm lifting I always print out a copy..and always put up a link to the LO (if its on this site, of course.)

Whew, that was long winded. So yeah, I get what your saying. It would be very convenient if everyone listed their goodies!!


 
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If I do a direct lift, or lift a sketch I always say who it is from. If I just lift a tiny part of a LO however and everything else is my own, then I don't normally say it.


 
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I always list the products. I haven't lifted but have mentioned before when someones style has influenced me.
Recently another scrapper and I posted very similar layouts and neither had seen the others layout..it was just a coincident that we had used the same products in the same way. So I think within a certain trend or style that two people can come up with similar ideas using the same products.
If I ever were to lift I would definitely mention the artist.


 
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just checking out the opinions.


 
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I lift a fair amount. I find lifting an overall design allows me to focus on practicing techniques and be more efficient with my precious scrapping time! I always give credit although I think there was one time where I lifted from the gallery and accidentally recycled the printed page before I could write down the artist. I did say it came from the gallery and I couldn't remember the name.

If it comes from a magazine or a book I just say which one it came from, not the designer or anything. I figure if they're publishing in a book, they know they're going to be lifted a lot. But maybe I should say the designer... I haven't really thought about it a lot.

I try to list all the products if I know them, but when I use separate pieces of paper (not from a stack) I rarely know the manufacturer (I'm just not familiar enough with them).

Since we're talking about what to include in the description, I have to say that I LOVE it when people describe how they did things in their layout. I'm just not familiar enough with what products are out there and never know if something is a stamp or a rub-on or hand-drawn, and I never know if something is altered or bought that way. I find it also gives you much more appreicationfor the work when you know all the little details someone went through to get an overall look.


 
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I have only been scrapbooking for about a year and a half but I have quickly forgetten how valuable all of that information would have been to me at the time. So MANY times I was like, how did she do that, or where did she get that? Now I'm a bit of a scrap shopaholic and so I know most of the products around and esp. the companies. I will make more of a concsious effort now to describe what techniques and products that I'm using.

As for the citing specific designers from magazines, I think that the only responsibility we have is to say that it is lifted or inspired by blank, besides that I think the rest is just a very nice courtesy. I think (not sure so don't quote me on it, hehe)that the same goes for written stuff, I don't think that you can be held responsible for copyright infringement so long as it is clear that it is a quote, even if the source is unknown. The only real issue is in actually trying to pass off another person's work as your own.


 
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There are definitely trends that show up across a lot of different layouts. I just posted a layout featuring a circle of flowers, which certainly isn't unique because I've favorited a lot of LOs with the same basic concept. I credited Mar73 for the lift, though, because I used several other ideas from her, too.
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I scraplift fairly often, especially when I'm trying to get something done quickly. I also participate in a scraplifting challenge, so we are probably furthering the cause of scraplifting. I do cite the source, since I've pretty much always got them saved in my favs file.

There will always be people who don't credit, but I do think that if we voluntarily post our LOs here, without the intent of copyrighting them, then we reliquish a degree of control over other's scraplifting. There is a sense of common courtesy that you should site your source.

on the products thing though, boy do I get aggravated when there are no products posted! I'll love a product that was used, and then have no idea what it was, what brand, etc! The angry jealous monster in me pops out and growls about not being able to get the item.

I do try and post as many products as possilbe, and will list the other products as needed to the extent that I can!


 
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I try to give credit when I've scraplifted an idea, BUT, there is another side to this as well. I posted a LO and received a PM that was very nasty about how I had scraplifted and hadn't given credit. I was amazed because I had not even seen the LO that I was accused of scraplifting. There are thousands of scrappers out there, and there is just a very good possibility that some of them are going to be using the same color paper or the same layout style on any one day, maybe because they were inspired by the same article in a magazine. It's important to give credit where credit is due, but it's equally as important to realize that the person accused of scraplifting may not have ever seen your LO.


Edited by dwelch on 06-19-09 09:11 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.


 
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That's actually a really good point, Dwelch. I have noticed that a few of my layouts look similar to another scrapper's layouts simply because we both got the same paper and embellie collections. There are only so many possible combinations of the same 8 pieces of paper and the same letter stickers and embellies. And with popular trends towards using circles, etc. layouts are bound to look similar from time to time. I'm sorry you weren't treated with more respect by tthat person.


 
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If I use another layout as inspiration or use a sketch or an ad or anything - i'll mention it in my description. Why not?

I do list the products I've used, but it's somewhat easy for me because I keep a lot of my stuff organized that way.


 
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  • dwelch Said:
I try to give credit when I've scraplifted an idea, BUT, there is another side to this as well. I posted a LO and received a PM that was very nasty about how I had scraplifted and hadn't given credit. I was amazed because I had not even seen the LO that I was accused of scraplifting. There are thousands of scrappers out there, and there is just a very good possibility that some of them are going to be using the same color paper or the same layout style on any one day, maybe because they were inspired by the same article in a magazine. It's important to give credit where credit is due, but it's equally as important to realize that the person accused of scraplifting may not have ever seen your LO.


That is unfortunate.


 
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I have had a very original idea lifted by a scrapper who told me she was going to do it. She never got back with about having completed the lift, but I stumbled upon hers in the gallery one day. She had not mentioned my name, OR even that it was a lift. This idea has been scrapped a lot now since I first did it, and most people are crediting her for the inspiration. Am I irritated by that? Well, yeah just a little bit. Will I lose sleep over it? NOPE, life goes on. When I post here, my ideas basically become public domain, and I am glad if I possibly inspire someone out there. A little "thank you for the inspiration" would be nice though and I think it's the right thing to do!

On the other side, some things are a bit ridiculous to try and claim as ones' own. I was contacted by someone once whom said " I see your "X" layout, did the "X" layout by so-in-so inspire you because you didn't credit her for it." I looked up this other person's LO...My LO was NOTHING like hers at all, it just had the same title! That was worth questioning me on? Seriously? I coolly responded "Dear so-in-so, I have never seen "X" layout by such-in-such until right now. Our work looks nothing alike so what exactly would I be crediting her for?"....LOL! Never heard back from her, LOL....


 
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Rebecca, aren't there only 15 titles anyways? Titles drive me crazy. I hate trying to come up with something clever and catchy or at least not completely trite. If I never see "Live, Love, Laugh" again it'll be too soon. Of course I'd probably just put "Smile" on every layout of my kids smiling if I would let myself get away with it.
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  • dwelch Said:
I try to give credit when I've scraplifted an idea, BUT, there is another side to this as well. I posted a LO and received a PM that was very nasty about how I had scraplifted and hadn't given credit. I was amazed because I had not even seen the LO that I was accused of scraplifting. There are thousands of scrappers out there, and there is just a very good possibility that some of them are going to be using the same color paper or the same layout style on any one day, maybe because they were inspired by the same article in a magazine. It's important to give credit where credit is due, but it's equally as important to realize that the person accused of scraplifting may not have ever seen your LO.



excellent excellent point, thankyou for making it


 
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Rebecca, aren't there only 15 titles anyways? Titles drive me crazy. I hate trying to come up with something clever and catchy or at least not completely trite. If I never see "Live, Love, Laugh" again it'll be too soon. Of course I'd probably just put "Smile" on every layout of my kids smiling if I would let myself get away with it.
Lisa




um, no,,,,,,fifteen is the number of native floridians,,,,

if you catch them by the toe and hold on they MUST give you their pot of gold,,,,,,haven't found one yet,,,,,,


 
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I've heard tell of the native-borns, but they don't have any in Del Boca Vista, Phase II, where my in-laws live.


 
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Ok, I "lift" (I guess you could say) ideas more than a lo, but techniques are put out there for that! I always give credit and try to point people to whomever or wherever it was I saw that idea.

Now, I have been lifted and ppl leave comments...."I am gonna steal that" or "Mind if I use that?"...Heck no! Go for it!! I would like the props, but, whatever....I ain't losin sleep over it.



 
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If I lift a full lo or pretty much everything on it then I will give credit. I just lifted a sketch...from start to finish, left her a comment that I'd lifted it and which one it was and I gave credit in my description. If I'm inspired by someone's lo or style I will give credit, BUT...how long do that? Do I do that every single time I do this technique forever and ever? There are SO MANY los with flowers and only so many ways to configure them. There are SO MANY los with torn, tattered, distressed papers and only so many ways to place them on the page. As someone else mentioned circles are really big right now who do you give credit to?

I think it is wonderful to give credit for a full on lift and if your are truly inspired and follow one closely.



 
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you make a good point, Kim, and recently I had the same dilemma,,,,,,a wonderful scrapper had some beautiful LO's using silk flowers and I wanted to know how she had achieved them,,,,

I PM'd her and she was WONDERFUL about telling me how, what to look for, how to cut the stems, what to adhere them with, etc,,,,,,

I did not copy her DESIGNS,,,,,but I did use her technique,,,,,,,but how long do I give her credit for this technique? After a certain number of times, putting my own touches in, etc, it pretty much "morphs" into my own technique,,,,,

so, I settled on FOUR times, and as my LO's started taking on a life of their own, with the flowers shaped in ways she had never shaped them, I stopped giving her credit,,,,,,,though I would STILL give her credit if anyone asked for TEACHING me how, as she was simply STUPENDOUS about it,,,,,


 
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When I scraplift (and I do!), I acknowedge the artist and give the link to the layout if possible.

I try to list the products used but sometimes am unsure where the products came from. If I have had papers or embellies for awhile and they are not in their original package, I am at a loss.

Great question! Happy scrapping!


 
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  • dwelch Said:
I try to give credit when I've scraplifted an idea, BUT, there is another side to this as well. I posted a LO and received a PM that was very nasty about how I had scraplifted and hadn't given credit. I was amazed because I had not even seen the LO that I was accused of scraplifting. There are thousands of scrappers out there, and there is just a very good possibility that some of them are going to be using the same color paper or the same layout style on any one day, maybe because they were inspired by the same article in a magazine. It's important to give credit where credit is due, but it's equally as important to realize that the person accused of scraplifting may not have ever seen your LO.




I see that others have responded to this as well (but haven't read their replies yet). I agree with your point. It's something I learned as a blogger a couple/few years ago. When you boil it down; there really is no "orginal" idea anymore; but merely different interpretations that are witnessed by different people. I get that.

BUT this particular girl (last night) said specifically that she "stole" (her word) the LO design from another scrapbooker. That's the part that gets me -- not "stole" because I know what she meant -- the lack of credit or even acknowledging that she forgot the person who inspired her.


 
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  • Scrapingbliss Said:
If I lift a full lo or pretty much everything on it then I will give credit. I just lifted a sketch...from start to finish, left her a comment that I'd lifted it and which one it was and I gave credit in my description. If I'm inspired by someone's lo or style I will give credit, BUT...how long do that? Do I do that every single time I do this technique forever and ever? There are SO MANY los with flowers and only so many ways to configure them. There are SO MANY los with torn, tattered, distressed papers and only so many ways to place them on the page. As someone else mentioned circles are really big right now who do you give credit to?

I think it is wonderful to give credit for a full on lift and if your are truly inspired and follow one closely.




I honestly think it's simply a matter of if you are consciously copying something specific, then you give credit. If it is a technique that everyone is doing, then why would you give credit. The last person you saw it on their lo didn't invent it. So i think if you think of it like that, it is pretty straight forward. So paper tearing, distressing, inking...none of those things need to be credited, BUT if you do one of those things in a really unique way that you saw and are trying to replicate, then give credit. There is no cut and dry answer. Just be honest with yourself.


 
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  • MommaSaid Said:
BUT this particular girl (last night) said specifically that she "stole" (her word) the LO design from another scrapbooker. That's the part that gets me -- not "stole" because I know what she meant -- the lack of credit or even acknowledging that she forgot the person who inspired her.


I HAVE used the words I am going to STEAL your idea! I have said it several times! on this very site, on the layouts of my friends that I have chatted and PMed with for years. Did it ever occur to anyone that it could be a joke? Gosh I hear the scrapbook police knocking on my door!


 
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but Gelidy, wouldn't you give credit if you DID use the idea, even if you were joking about the word "steal"??? I think that was the point,,,,


 
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ps, I know what you mean, I've used the word too,,,,but I wouldn't then turn around and use their idea, and NOT give credit, because that is when it goes BEYOND joking into the realm of REALLY stealing,,,although, even if something is copyrited, you can't OWN an idea, you can only OWN AN EXPRESSION of an idea,,,

oy, it gets fuzzy at some points, lol,,,


Edited by CommaHolly on 06-20-09 09:53 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.


 
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I honestly think it's simply a matter of if you are consciously copying something specific, then you give credit. If it is a technique that everyone is doing, then why would you give credit. The last person you saw it on their lo didn't invent it. So i think if you think of it like that, it is pretty straight forward. So paper tearing, distressing, inking...none of those things need to be credited, BUT if you do one of those things in a really unique way that you saw and are trying to replicate, then give credit. There is no cut and dry answer. Just be honest with yourself.



I agree - if it's just a technique that's used all the time - then I don't worry about it - but if it's obvious to me that my layout looks highly similar to the one that gave me inspiration - I will note that person for credit.

Thing is - for layouts I do completely on my own (few and far between), but still, eventually I get around to doing my own - I don't monitor the gallery to see who may have copied it. Isn't that a lot of pics to go through?

One question - should someone be able to post a lift in a challenge? I see it all the time, but that doesn't seem fair. Save those for the actual scraplift challenges, right?


 
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I have not really started posting my work yet but will as soon as I finish my current album, which will be next month (I hope). I have taped to the back of each page a list of materials used and the name of any person who inspired that page design. That way I can't "forget" to give credit, which with my memory is a sure thing without a detailed reminder. In addition, I keep a collection of layouts found in magazines or on the web, including this site, which have features that I admire. I always mark those with identification as to who and where they came from, just in case they are at some point in the future the inspiration for any of my creations.

It's only fair to give credit where credit is due, and it does not lessen the value of your own work in the least. This same etiquette is followed in many other arts and crafts forums.

The question regarding the use of a lift in a challenge is an interesting point, which I hope others will follow up since I have never done one. Off the top of my head though, it would not seem fair to submit an actual lift. If your creation was inspired by and is a none-too-close adaptation, it may be OK. Different people are going to have different opinions though as to what is copied and what is adapted, which would make it difficult to a set a firm rule to control this if it was allowed. What do you experienced challenge participants think?


 
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  • lstory Said:
Rebecca, aren't there only 15 titles anyways? Titles drive me crazy. I hate trying to come up with something clever and catchy or at least not completely trite. If I never see "Live, Love, Laugh" again it'll be too soon. Of course I'd probably just put "Smile" on every layout of my kids smiling if I would let myself get away with it.
Lisa




Too funny. But when a really original title is out there, it can really make a LO, don't you think? I wish I was creative enough for cool titles. I'm more of an "xmas 04" type person. lol. I am trying to break out of that box though. Sometimes they just come with some photos.. my Don't you know I'm LOCO? LO is one of my favorites title-wise at the moment.


 
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I honestly think it's simply a matter of if you are consciously copying something specific, then you give credit. If it is a technique that everyone is doing, then why would you give credit. The last person you saw it on their lo didn't invent it. So i think if you think of it like that, it is pretty straight forward. So paper tearing, distressing, inking...none of those things need to be credited, BUT if you do one of those things in a really unique way that you saw and are trying to replicate, then give credit. There is no cut and dry answer. Just be honest with yourself.



I agree - if it's just a technique that's used all the time - then I don't worry about it - but if it's obvious to me that my layout looks highly similar to the one that gave me inspiration - I will note that person for credit.

Thing is - for layouts I do completely on my own (few and far between), but still, eventually I get around to doing my own - I don't monitor the gallery to see who may have copied it. Isn't that a lot of pics to go through?

One question - should someone be able to post a lift in a challenge? I see it all the time, but that doesn't seem fair. Save those for the actual scraplift challenges, right?





You know, that is a good question and an excellent point. I've wondered every now and again bout that. I lift from other people all the time and in the past year I've almost exclusively used sketches or lifting to get me "caught up" as quickly as I can. It takes the pressure off design wise and lets me play with techniques.

I think there is a lot of gray area there. If a person CASES (copy-and-steal-everythin g) a LO, then I don't think its nice to enter that LO into a challenge. BUT a regular lift, I say, why not? They manage to look like totally different LOs in the end, with only a basic design or picture placement the same. My latest LO in my gallery "I love my peeps" is a perfect example...as it is a lift. (and in a challenge or two)

But then again, I don't enter challenges to "win", so that part doesn't really matter to me. I enter them for the inspiration to scrap more. And its nice to receive praise via comments that you get in a challenge. That is another form of inspiration to me.

Anyone else want to weigh in their thoughts on lifts in challenges? I'm interested in the consensus.


 
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I'm right there with you, Adrienne. My only Halloween layout is titled...wait for it..."Happy Halloween." Really outdid myself there. Maybe I should spend more time thinking about song lyrics!
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Song lyrics are great. Sometimes they don't translate well to a title though. I did Brown Eyed Girl the other day. Love the song.. perfect title wise. But a few months ago I did the challenge on scrap the music for the Plain White T's :1,2,3,4.. and although it is the cutest sweetest song..the title didn't really look all that hot, does that make sense?

You should check out the Scrappin' the Music blog. Its pretty cool. PM me if you want the link.


 
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  • raindancer Said:
  • lstory Said:
Rebecca, aren't there only 15 titles anyways? Titles drive me crazy. I hate trying to come up with something clever and catchy or at least not completely trite. If I never see "Live, Love, Laugh" again it'll be too soon. Of course I'd probably just put "Smile" on every layout of my kids smiling if I would let myself get away with it.
Lisa




Too funny. But when a really original title is out there, it can really make a LO, don't you think? I wish I was creative enough for cool titles. I'm more of an "xmas 04" type person. lol. I am trying to break out of that box though. Sometimes they just come with some photos.. my Don't you know I'm LOCO? LO is one of my favorites title-wise at the moment.




LOL, I've got a LO in my gallery entitled SMILE, lol,,,


 
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Who doesn't have a layout called "Smile"?


 
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Me!!! But it's a good idea for a new LO.


 
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