Username Post: Scrappers worst nightmare!        (Topic#1536325)
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At least to me this is...

I was rearranging some LOs when I noticed that the pp was coming off of the cs and then I noticed that the photos were as well.

I was horrified.

For a minute I felt really stupid for investing so much time and money into this hobby but then I got out the glue and fixed the page. I will be so upset if this happens to more LO's...

I used glue sticks for almost all my LOs for the last four years. AAAGGGGGGGGGGGGH!

Its such an awful feeling to see my scrapbooks fall apart so soon. In my head these things are going to be around for my great great great grandkids to look at!


 
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OH NO! I'm so sorry that happened to you! I haven't seen any of mine fall apart yet, but I only started a year ago, so I guess it's a future possibility, because I didn't really care about the strength of my adhesives when I first started. Now I try to get the very best that I can at my lss, but who knows how good it really is...it might just be expensive for no good reason lol!

Good luck to you with your lo's, I hope you can find something stronger!


 
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so sorry to hear about your layouts falling apart. I've never used glue sticks because I heard they would do that.


 
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Glue sticks are known for that,,,,,I'm so sorry!!!! I recommend getting the ATG gun,,,the initial output for the gun is a bit pricey,,,,about 40-60 dollars,,,,,but the adhesive is about as good as it gets and the refills are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP, yard per yard,,,9 out of 10 people love the ATG gun and adhesive,,,,the only few that I've known who were not in love were left handers, although my DD uses it just fine and she's left handed,,,

whatever you pick I surely hope you can fix those up before they all fall apart!


 
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I prefer my kokuyo to my ATG (and I'm not a left-hander). It seems like the adhesive is actually stronger, to me.


 
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Glue sticks won't hold, I love my ATG and I am a lefty.


 
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I agree with the ATG gun although I have an "off brand" but the adhesive is GREAT and CHEAP!


 
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an off brand??? Do tell....


I am so looking forward to my ATG. DH said he would get me one for our anniversary in September. I can't wait.


 
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I have never had any luck with glue sticks. I do a lot of paper piecing and have found Elmo's smile and Oscar's trash can down in the bottom of the page protector, and some of the items glued in with the stick has visibly changed colors.

I now use the good old fashioned photo splits for pieces, the Xyron 250 for all the bitty pieces and the Xyron 850 for the big jobs--I still like making serendipity paper for use in cards, and once in a while on a layout. The 850 is the perfect tool for serendipity paper.

Nancy


 
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I'm a leftie and the ATG has been tough for me to get used to. I'm on my third refill and I'm finally feeling pretty comfortable with it. The problem for lefties is that you can't see where the adhesive is going. Now I've used it enough that I know, but try switching hands and you'll see what I mean - you can't see around the red part of the housing. Typical longer learning curve for lefties living in a right-handed world. All in all, I'm happy I got it. For one thing, the adhesive is so much cheaper that I use it very generously. Nothing is coming off my pages and cards!

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Yah glue sticks don't hold. Sorry

A lot of my Thickers fall off .. that annoys me because they are so darn expensive!!!!!


 
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  • LeeLo on 06-09-10 08:47 AM
In response to Nat Scraps

I used a glue stick on my very first LO and so far it has not fell apart, but I really would not recommend them. The glue tends to get brittle over time and releases its hold.

I use photo splints, Zig 2-way glue or my ATG on most everything. The Zig 2-way glue pens are awesome for smaller items cut from the Cricut. I use photo splints a lot when I'm matting photos. I also bought my ATG at an extremely good price from a framing supply place online. It was the cheapest I had seen it.


Edited by LeeLo on 06-09-10 08:50 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.


 
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Glue sticks are USELESS!!!

Get some tape runner, glue dots, photo squares... anything but glue sticks, and go back and re-stick.


 
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Love, love, love my ATG!!! I still use glue dots a lot too.

Jill - I am completely with you on Thickers. I LOVE them and have a TON of them, but my letters keep falling off!


 
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I always a little bit of glue to my thickers, they stink at adhering.


 
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I'm so sorry about your LO's!!

I'm an ATG addict - I can't imagine using anything else ever again... and once that glues something down, it's DOWN.


 
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Yes, glue sticks are notorious for this. You have to stop using them and get some good adhesive! I've been scrapping for 8+ years and thankfully never used them. When I look at my albums from 8 years ago they are still all together (I use a tape runner for most things, liquid adhesive like ZipDry for small pieces, glue dots, and tacky tape).

I actually like that my Thickers don't adhere because I can move them around and play with them on the page. I always glue them down with ZipDry. I just don't even consider them to be self-adhesive.


 
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  • ann0d Said:
I always a little bit of glue to my thickers, they stink at adhering.



Me too.
Thickers (and any other self-adhesive chipboard) have crummy adhesive. I always add glue dots.

  • michellehum Said:

I always glue them down with ZipDry. I just don't even consider them to be self-adhesive.



Me either.
I'd almost prefer NO adhesive.


 
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Ugh, so sorry! I used glue sticks at the beginning too, with the same results!


 
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Man, I wish I had known glue sticks don't actually stick. I remember I had used a liquid adhesive at first and it made my pages "bubble" then I tried a tape runner and it broke so then I tried the glue stick.

That seriously makes me so sad to think about all the pages I'll need to redo now.

Thanks for the thickers tip! I've used tons of those too and I'm sure they will need fixed at some point...

I also used a lot of the "self-adhesive" heidi swapp chipboard letters and those are horrible. I even got a few packages where the adhesive was already dry on the back!


 
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Ugh the worst is Martha Stewart's "Superglue". It's all af/lf and such, but it doesn't hold worth a darn! I've used it when making mini chipboard albums and needing a way to ensure the flowers absolutely would not fall off the covers. Well, it doesn't do a bit of good, actually it's like trying to make a silk flower stick to paper with water!! Not so great.


 
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  • jessicaparker88 Said:
Ugh the worst is Martha Stewart's "Superglue". It's all af/lf and such, but it doesn't hold worth a darn! I've used it when making mini chipboard albums and needing a way to ensure the flowers absolutely would not fall off the covers. Well, it doesn't do a bit of good, actually it's like trying to make a silk flower stick to paper with water!! Not so great.




Uggghhh! I almost bought some of this yesterday.
Instead I bought the Martha Stewart gel adhesive. I'm hoping it will work on stamps for glitter and flock (the bottle has a nice flat applicator).


 
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I have the same thing happening to me!! my adhesive is coming undone. After a tone of new ones to try I gave in and got an ATG gun and LOVE IT--so far so good and nothing is falling apart.


 
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So sorry. I had pages fall apart that I used a glue stick on. They now are with my children's craft stuff though they both like to use a tape runner.

I have the "knock off" ATG as well. I love it and don't know how I lived without it. I'm left handed and have no problems using it. I can't see where's it going but you learn to adapt.


 
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Sorry to hear about your layouts. A few weeks ago, I was helping a friend make her first scrapbook. The glue stick she brought along did not stick at all. I ended up giving her one of my tape runner (which I highly recommend). I've been scrapping for 3+ years with tape runners and to date, everything is still in place (even with my 3 year old handling my books roughly at times).

I also recommend a liquid glue for anything small, nonporous, or stubborn items like Thickers. But I would not use the liquid stuff on patterned paper as it tends to warp the paper.

Hope you get your layouts fixed quickly.


 
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I use the double sided tape runners from the Creative Memories or you can buy them at the scrapbooking stores. They work great and I have used them for 14 years or so.


 
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another good glue is Zip-Dry glue,,,,,,it's liquid but does NOT warp paper,,,,,,excellent stuff!!!!!!


 
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Sometimes my older stuff pops off pages too. I just simply use a better adhesive and hope it doesn't happen again!


 
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I use Tombow adhesive tape runners and I've never had a bit of trouble. (Knock on wood!)


 
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anyone use a lot of staples/brads/eyelets just to insure things stay put? I was just wondering if any of them will rust or tarnish??

I've had label holders tarnish before I could even use them (that were bought at my LSS)... But I have been wondering what the difference is between "regular" staples and those made by ranger/making memories/ek success??



 
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I'm sorry your pages are falling apart! I'm familiar with that sick-to-your-stomach feeling when you start flipping through your pages and things come apart. Ugggh! But, mine was not from glue sticks. Mine was from those horrid Adtech glue dot runners from Walmart. I had used them for about 1 1/2 to 2 years and EVERYTHING I used them on started crumbling apart. I started buying them because they were easily purchased, cheap, and seemed to work great. Yeah, that was a big mistake! I now have the ATG gun (knock off) and love it! Wouldn't use anything else. But what a pain in the buttocks to have to go back through all my old pages re-adhering everything!


 
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  • GaMtnScrap Said:
I'm sorry your pages are falling apart! I'm familiar with that sick-to-your-stomach feeling when you start flipping through your pages and things come apart. Ugggh! But, mine was not from glue sticks. Mine was from those horrid Adtech glue dot runners from Walmart. I had used them for about 1 1/2 to 2 years and EVERYTHING I used them on started crumbling apart. I started buying them because they were easily purchased, cheap, and seemed to work great. Yeah, that was a big mistake! I now have the ATG gun (knock off) and love it! Wouldn't use anything else. But what a pain in the buttocks to have to go back through all my old pages re-adhering everything!




Oh great! I just started using these. (After I threw my Hermafix dispenser against the wall in frustration!! )
I've never heard anyone have issues with Adtech.


 
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  • Nat Scraps Said:
anyone use a lot of staples/brads/eyelets just to insure things stay put? I was just wondering if any of them will rust or tarnish??

I've had label holders tarnish before I could even use them (that were bought at my LSS)... But I have been wondering what the difference is between "regular" staples and those made by ranger/making memories/ek success??






I haven't noticed anything tarnishing. I don't use staples.
Personally, I think the staples sold for scrapbooking are the same (just higher priced).

In dealing with old office files, I will tell you, staples DO rust and metal file prongs DO rust! I have files that are 10-15 years old (always stored in an office), that have rust on the paper.


I also believe the climate you live it have a LOT to do with how long your books last and what parts fail. Heat and humidity play a big part.


 
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  • Bxr-Linda Said:
  • GaMtnScrap Said:
I'm sorry your pages are falling apart! I'm familiar with that sick-to-your-stomach feeling when you start flipping through your pages and things come apart. Ugggh! But, mine was not from glue sticks. Mine was from those horrid Adtech glue dot runners from Walmart. I had used them for about 1 1/2 to 2 years and EVERYTHING I used them on started crumbling apart. I started buying them because they were easily purchased, cheap, and seemed to work great. Yeah, that was a big mistake! I now have the ATG gun (knock off) and love it! Wouldn't use anything else. But what a pain in the buttocks to have to go back through all my old pages re-adhering everything!




Oh great! I just started using these. (After I threw my Hermafix dispenser against the wall in frustration!! )
I've never heard anyone have issues with Adtech.




I had problems with that glue dot runner after only about a month! I had a layout propped up and not in an album and I came in my craft room and all the pictures and stuff had fallen off. I live in Houston, so the humidity probably did it, but the stuff should hold at least a month long!


 
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  • Bxr-Linda Said:
  • Nat Scraps Said:
anyone use a lot of staples/brads/eyelets just to insure things stay put? I was just wondering if any of them will rust or tarnish??

I've had label holders tarnish before I could even use them (that were bought at my LSS)... But I have been wondering what the difference is between "regular" staples and those made by ranger/making memories/ek success??






I haven't noticed anything tarnishing. I don't use staples.
Personally, I think the staples sold for scrapbooking are the same (just higher priced).

In dealing with old office files, I will tell you, staples DO rust and metal file prongs DO rust! I have files that are 10-15 years old (always stored in an office), that have rust on the paper.


I also believe the climate you live it have a LOT to do with how long your books last and what parts fail. Heat and humidity play a big part.



This has always been a worry of mine when it comes to staples and paper clips. I have seen files with rusting office supplies too.


 
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I have been very lucky, I used glue sticks a lot on the first half of my daughter's baby book and 2 vacation albums. They are all well over 10 years old and nothing has fallen off yet. I live where it is very dry. I quit using gluesticks because it was so much easier to use photo splits.


 
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  • Bxr-Linda Said:
In dealing with old office files, I will tell you, staples DO rust and metal file prongs DO rust! I have files that are 10-15 years old (always stored in an office), that have rust on the paper.



I guess this would only be a bonus in the case that you're really going for 'a tried & true' distressed look!

LOL!



p.s. For anyone that's interested, if you aren't really sure about something, you might try spraying or sealing the any type of potentially rusty parts or products in advance & or prior to using.
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  • Obi on 06-15-10 09:39 PM
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  • Bxr-Linda Said:
  • Nat Scraps Said:
anyone use a lot of staples/brads/eyelets just to insure things stay put? I was just wondering if any of them will rust or tarnish??

I've had label holders tarnish before I could even use them (that were bought at my LSS)... But I have been wondering what the difference is between "regular" staples and those made by ranger/making memories/ek success??





I haven't noticed anything tarnishing. I don't use staples.
Personally, I think the staples sold for scrapbooking are the same (just higher priced).

In dealing with old office files, I will tell you, staples DO rust and metal file prongs DO rust! I have files that are 10-15 years old (always stored in an office), that have rust on the paper.


I also believe the climate you live it have a LOT to do with how long your books last and what parts fail. Heat and humidity play a big part.


I agree it's all about humidity. It's why I don't buy D ring albums with 80% humidity and AC not standard anywhere D ring albums simply rust out on me.

And glue stick glue quite often simply does not stick at all. Glue dots I haven't had much luck with either.

But if I can get DD's crafts made with glue dots into a scrapbook away from the humidity them some of the items are coming up to 4 years old.


 
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  • Obi on 06-15-10 09:43 PM
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On using staples etc in layouts. A double coat of acrylic lacer/varnish does slow the corrosion process right down.


 
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  • JediScrapToo Said:
  • Bxr-Linda Said:
  • GaMtnScrap Said:
I'm sorry your pages are falling apart! I'm familiar with that sick-to-your-stomach feeling when you start flipping through your pages and things come apart. Ugggh! But, mine was not from glue sticks. Mine was from those horrid Adtech glue dot runners from Walmart. I had used them for about 1 1/2 to 2 years and EVERYTHING I used them on started crumbling apart. I started buying them because they were easily purchased, cheap, and seemed to work great. Yeah, that was a big mistake! I now have the ATG gun (knock off) and love it! Wouldn't use anything else. But what a pain in the buttocks to have to go back through all my old pages re-adhering everything!




Oh great! I just started using these. (After I threw my Hermafix dispenser against the wall in frustration!! )
I've never heard anyone have issues with Adtech.




I had problems with that glue dot runner after only about a month! I had a layout propped up and not in an album and I came in my craft room and all the pictures and stuff had fallen off. I live in Houston, so the humidity probably did it, but the stuff should hold at least a month long!



I too had the Hermafix dispenser first, got frustrated with it too always gumming up. I think I spent more time trying to clean that thing out than I actually using it. That's when I switched to the Adtech. It did take a whole year and a half for the problem to show, though. I do live in the south and we do get pretty humid here for a bit in the summer, even in the mountains. Maybe it took going through a summer or two before it effected it enough to 'let go' or something. I've talked to other people who've never had a problem with Adtech, but I won't be using them again, that's for sure!


 
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On the staples thing, I've seen the plain silver ones rust, but I've used some of the colored ones that I haven't had any problems with, at least not so far anyway. Maybe the coloring is also a coating that protects it or something? And no, these aren't the ones from the scrapping section either. I got them in the office supply section but they were just in colors. (Just not a lot of variety of colors to choose from, though.) Never used paper clips, but there are those that have that plastic-y type covering on them. Seems like that would keep them from rusting, but then I'd worry about the acidity level of them, so I wouldn't use them directly on a photo or anything. Very interesting discussion, though!


 
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Liz, what is a knockoff atg?
And have you seen pink atg this new pink atg, for under $30?


 
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  • ann0d Said:
I always a little bit of glue to my thickers, they stink at adhering.



I'm in agreement here!


 
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  • CommaHolly Said:
Glue sticks are known for that,,,,,I'm so sorry!!!! I recommend getting the ATG gun,,,the initial output for the gun is a bit pricey,,,,about 40-60 dollars,,,,,but the adhesive is about as good as it gets and the refills are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP, yard per yard,,,9 out of 10 people love the ATG gun and adhesive,,,,the only few that I've known who were not in love were left handers, although my DD uses it just fine and she's left handed,,,

whatever you pick I surely hope you can fix those up before they all fall apart!



That is awful!!

I use ATG (I have the yellow version of the gun referenced above) and PVA, which is a liquid glue that dries rock hard. HTH!!


 
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  • peenut_23 Said:
Yah glue sticks don't hold. Sorry

A lot of my Thickers fall off .. that annoys me because they are so darn expensive!!!!!



I've noticed that about Thickers. It's very annoying.


 
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I'm going to have to get one of those ph testers!!

A lot of the time I assume things are archival quality if they are made by the scrappy brands but lately I've been noticing that a lot products don't specifically say, acid free, lignin free, light fast, etc. while others do.

Anyone else notice this?

Like with american crafts the thickers say acid free but their chipboard shapes don't specify. I got some ki memories stuff all from the same line and some of it said acid free and some didn't (can't remember exactly what maybe chipboard, letter stickers, epoxy stickers and rubons?)




 
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  • Nat Scraps Said:
I'm going to have to get one of those ph testers!!

A lot of the time I assume things are archival quality if they are made by the scrappy brands but lately I've been noticing that a lot products don't specifically say, acid free, lignin free, light fast, etc. while others do.

Anyone else notice this?

Like with american crafts the thickers say acid free but their chipboard shapes don't specify. I got some ki memories stuff all from the same line and some of it said acid free and some didn't (can't remember exactly what maybe chipboard, letter stickers, epoxy stickers and rubons?)







I have noticed that.

You cannot assume just because it's marketed for scrapbooking, that it is archival safe.

There was discussion here a while ago about one particular DCWV cardstock stack that was testing 'not safe'. It's conceivable that a company gets its products from different suppliers, and one may be 'bad.'

I would stay away from epoxy stickers. I've heard of people having those "ooze" and discolor everything around them.
I have some that have curled in the original packages (before I've even used them).


 
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  • Pink Cricut Said:
Liz, what is a knockoff atg?
And have you seen pink atg this new pink atg, for under $30?


It's the ATG 50. They cost around $25, reason I bought it and (From the site) FITS 3 sizes of tape with NO ADAPTER!! 1/4" x 36 yds, 1/2" x 36 yds, and 3/4" x 36 yds

I did see the new pink. If I didn't have the one I have I'd so buy the pink one.


Edited by foltzy on 06-16-10 03:46 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.


 
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  • Obi on 06-16-10 07:08 PM
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  • Jennifer Priest Said:
  • CommaHolly Said:
Glue sticks are known for that,,,,,I'm so sorry!!!! I recommend getting the ATG gun,,,the initial output for the gun is a bit pricey,,,,about 40-60 dollars,,,,,but the adhesive is about as good as it gets and the refills are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP, yard per yard,,,9 out of 10 people love the ATG gun and adhesive,,,,the only few that I've known who were not in love were left handers, although my DD uses it just fine and she's left handed,,,

whatever you pick I surely hope you can fix those up before they all fall apart!



That is awful!!

I use ATG (I have the yellow version of the gun referenced above) and PVA, which is a liquid glue that dries rock hard. HTH!!




After 10 years PVA will crack dry out and take the paper it's glued too with it. Resulting in brittle damaged paper and holes in layouts. It's highly acidic not recommended for scrapbooking.


 
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