Username Post: SCRAPBOOK MACHINES        (Topic#1585423)
Kathybretz
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I've gotten along for years without buying a machine that helps create dye cuts quickly and simply. Now I'm thinking of buying one and wonder which one(s) actual users like best. Money is not an object but simplicity of use is. Help?


 
CommaHolly
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for every machine you'll find people who say it's the best,,,,,,

do you want a manual machine that uses metal dies and also embosses??

do you want a cart based system that you buy cartridges to cut whatever shapes are on the cartridges???

do you want something a wee bit more complicated and might possibly be interested in a machine you can create shapes with on the computer and then cut using the machine????

a bit more info might help us help you figure out which one is best for you.


 
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I have both the Cricut and Silhouette. The Cricut was easier to learn. but the Silhouette is a better machine and seems to be better supported by its manufacturer right now. I took several classes and am doing some amazing things on the Silhouette. I waited to get the Silhouette because I didn't want a computer supported system. As the years passed, I changed my mind. Sadly Provocraft isn't supporting the Gypsy and many, many of us are not happy about it. They are saying that the Craftroom will be available soon to Gypsy owners and the carts will be transferrable. If that happens, I will support the Cricut again.


 
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As Holly said, it depends on what you want to do with it, but this is what I have:

Cricut Expression—I like it fine, but it takes cartridges, which can definitely add to the expense. People say they find them fairly cheaply by keeping their eyes open, but it's still an added expense. I have no idea how the newer versions of Cricut work. I fortunately bought SCAL before a lawsuit with ProvoCraft made it unavailable for purchasing any more. With SCAL I don't need to use cartridges...well, need one for the machine to read, but it doesn't matter which one and one probably comes with most machines. SCAL is software so I can use any image I find, or make my own, and cut it out. I can use any font...but it's a moot point since it's no longer available (might find a CD WITH REGISTRATION CODE on ebay, or something).

My family bought me a Cameo Silhouette for Christmas, 2011 and I love it. No cartridges needed. A software program is included with the Cameo and an upgrade is available. There are thousands of graphics for sale on their site for 99¢, including Echo Park, Jenni Bowlin, Looney Tunes and lots of others. They have half-price sales quite often. No dies or anything need to be bought, but the blades and mats aren't sold in most stores, so you want to keep a spare (as I found out this week!). SB carries them.

The Cricut will cut chipboard and heavier things. The Cameo doesn't. They both cut vinyl for wall-words, etc. Neither does embossing.

Which is why I also have the Cuttlebug. It will cut dies like Spellbinders, except for the really large ones. The opening is 6" wide, so the die has to fit through there. It also takes the embossing folders. It's quick and easy...it's manual. It folds up so it doesn't take much room. I use my Cuttlebug more than any of the others just because it's so quick and handy.

Oh, Cameo also has the Print & Cut feature, which means you can print a graphic, then the Cameo will cut it out. This is the feature that made me want it even though I was happy with my Cricut Expression. Print & Cut can be done on the CE, but it takes some work. Very easy with the Cameo.

I also have the Creatopia...I think I'm the only one who has owned one :>) I have hardly used it, but only because the way I'm set up right now, it's too hard to get out. It's about the same size as the Cricut and Cameo and is manual. It will take 12" widths, which is why I got it. It's basically a big, wide, purple Cuttlebug (mine is purple), but it also takes rolls of laminating film, and adhesive. It's made by Xyron, so if you have the little X for adhesive, the Creatopia does the same thing...in a big way. It needs the Shapez attachment to use the thin dies, like Spellbinders.

Many have the Big Kicks (a manual machine) and are very happy with it.

Have fun shopping. Maybe go to a scrap store and see if they have machines you can try out. ~Judy




 
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  • stick on 02-23-13 06:21 PM
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And there are a handful of other machines out there that are similar, they all have their plusses and minuses, their followers and their haters. It's well worth doing the research to figure out what you really need.

I have a Gazelle electronic cutter, and a Sizzix Big Shot. I love having both an electronic and a manual, I can do nearly anything with such a combination.


 
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Yep, I have a Sizzix Big Shot and a Cricut Original (the one that only cuts 6x12), and I love 'em both.


 
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As everyone has said so far, it is purely a matter of taste, space and what you plan to primarily make with it. I personally don't want to have to be tied to the computer so that makes my Cricut ideal. I don't know which one it is, it is about 6 years old and uses the 6 X 12 mats. I also have a Cuttlebug for certain dies I can't live without and for all my embossing folders. I've had both for several years and haven't had a need for any other machine, so far. Who knows what the future will bring, lol?


 
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  • mrsdriver5 Said:


My family bought me a Cameo Silhouette for Christmas, 2011 and I love it. No cartridges needed. A software program is included with the Cameo and an upgrade is available. There are thousands of graphics for sale on their site for 99¢, including Echo Park, Jenni Bowlin, Looney Tunes and lots of others. They have half-price sales quite often. No dies or anything need to be bought, but the blades and mats aren't sold in most stores, so you want to keep a spare (as I found out this week!). SB carries them.

The Cricut will cut chipboard and heavier things. The Cameo doesn't. They both cut vinyl for wall-words, etc. Neither does embossing.


Have fun shopping. Maybe go to a scrap store and see if they have machines you can try out. ~Judy







I have to disagree with above statement
The Cameo will cut grungepaper (on the coverstock setting, I've cut grungepaper, cork etc.) and the latest update to the software has a chipboard setting...haven't tried it with generic chipboard but Silhouette has chipboard coming out in the store here soon....

Alison

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Holly is correct - every machine has its own fan club

I'm in LOVE LOVE LOVE with my Big Shot although all the dies and folders are a bit of an investment.

Good luck with whichever you choose and welcome to the neighborhood!


 
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i have a big shot and love it. but like someone else said...the dies and folders can be a bit of an expense.

try looking at you tube tutorials for each machine... that way you can see the machine in action and what it can be used for along with researching what other bits you will need to create with.

good luck and hope you find what your looking for.


 
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I will tell you that all the advise so far is correct and great.
I would suggest finding a place where you can possibly see, touch and/or playwith any number of machines. DO NOT INVEST IN A MACHINE ON A WHIM. I have a Big Shot Express, as I started with a Sizzix red manual machine close to a decade ago. I still love my dies and enjoy the simplicity of it. I have friends with electronic cutters, who adore them and friends who hate them, because they are tempermental as far as they are concerned. I have not yet found a need that I could not print out and cut by hand or exacto for the intricate stuff, or just plain trade with a friend or buy out right.
You really do need to be sure of your computer skills for some of these machines and be aware of what you want to cut most, also, SPACE can be an issure.
Do you have room for a large collection of dies, cartridges, folders etc.
Good luck in your search.


 
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I have a Cricut Expression and use it alot for letters and stuff. I like some of the flourishes too but really don't use it as much anymore. I'm not really into the layered die cuts though so i don't use it for alot of what it's intended for.

I'm thinking I want to get a GRand Calibur so i can use spellbinders dies and make better matting and flowers. It cuts and enmbosses.


Edited by Just G on 02-24-13 03:42 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.


 
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The Silhouette chipboard is out. The looseness of the fibers makes it ideal for cutting. I got some this weekend. My LSS lady pulled it out for me.

I have the Big Shot, the Revolution, the Big Kick (electronic), Grand Calibur, the hand squeeze one. I have quite a few. Don't let the use of a computer based ones scare you off. It is really easy to learn. Lots of videos on YouTube really support the use of all of the machines. I like not using dies. They are super pricey and can only be used in one size. I know. I have a ton of them.


 
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As you can see,,,,,,many people have more than one machine, because they all have their good and bad points,,,,,

I have a Cricut Expression, a Cricut Create (but I am not too pleased with Provocraft lately, mostly due to the non support for the Gypsy, a hand held design device that works with the Cricut), a big shot and a Grand Calibur (the last 2 are manual machines and cut my spellbinders and sizzix dies),,,,,

for your first machine, you should probably decide what you want to do MOST and then go with that one,,,,,,,chances are, you'll be back for another machine next year


 
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I currently own a Cricut Expression, 50+ initially costly carts & a Cuttlebug.

If I had it to over again, I would have invested my money in a Silouhette Cameo & a Big Shot.

Good Luck with your decision!




 
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  • mrsdriver5 Said:
The Cricut will cut chipboard and heavier things. The Cameo doesn't. They both cut vinyl for wall-words, etc. Neither does embossing.



Actually, you can...emboss...with your Cricut.



http://www.ehow.com/how_6676023_emboss-cr icut-expressio...

http://www.pinkcricut.com/2010/06/how-to-emboss -with-yo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrqXz73Bj3c


 
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I agree with the rest of the ladies who said each machine has their own fan club... I am part of the I LOVE MY BIG SHOT fan club...{that being said I am also part of the 'I Could Throw My Cricut Out The Window' fan club }
, but I have heard wonderful things about the silhouette cameo... Good luck


 
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I love my BigShot and I love my Cameo....
I'm really glad I have both and have no need or desire for any of the other ones.
I did a lot of reading and researching before I purchased either one, though. I ended up with the best machines for me....

Alison


 
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I haven't used chipboard...I just know when I bought my Cameo they made a big point that it wasn't heavy enough to cut chipboard and the warranty would be voided if you tried. Mine was ordered before they were on the market, so I know they've made upgrades since then...like improving the blades.

Once you wrote your comment, it sounds familiar...at least about them coming out with their own chipboard. They don't show that I need an update, but mine doesn't have a chipboard setting. Is it called something else? (Doesn't really matter to me since I just use my CE instead...just curious )~Judy


 
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  • KellyCali Said:
  • mrsdriver5 Said:
The Cricut will cut chipboard and heavier things. The Cameo doesn't. They both cut vinyl for wall-words, etc. Neither does embossing.



Actually, you can...emboss...with your Cricut.



http://www.ehow.com/how_6676023_emboss-cr icut-expressio...

http://www.pinkcricut.com/2010/06/how-to-emboss -with-yo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrqXz73Bj3c



I know you can emboss like using a pen, in both the Cameo and Cricut Expression, but I was thinking of the embossing folders that we all enjoy using on the manual machines. I wouldn't buy a Cameo for it's embossing capability, although, yes, it can be done. People have asked before if they can use embossing folders and dies in the Cameo and that's what I was thinking of. I'm sorry for the mistake. I was just trying to give the reasons that I like my various machines.~Judy


 
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  • Vae on 02-25-13 03:08 PM
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Wow, I didn't know you could emboss with the Cricut!! Wow... I am just learning all kinds of new things today!


 
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I have an Epic 6....meh....I want a Big Shot.

I have a Baby Bug...hate it.

I have a Cameo. LOVE it!

It totally depends on what you want it to do.


 
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  • Vae on 02-25-13 03:14 PM
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I got a small cricut years ago for an anniversary present. I couldn't figure it out (I didn't exactly try super hard) so it sat in the box for over a year. I wasn't exactly into scrapbooking very much at the time.

Then I decided to start scrapping again and I got it out and figured it out. Within 2 weeks I had ordered the Expression so that I could cut 12x12 paper. I barely used my smaller cricut because I didn't like being limited to a 6" piece of paper.

If you are doing cards, that might be fine, but if you are doing layouts, I highly recommend getting something that does 12x12 at least.

BUT at the time I had never heard of a Silhouette either. If I had it ALL to do over again, I would have gotten the Silhouette first.

I just got a big kick but I had to order an adapter so I haven't been able to use it yet. That part was frustrating... I don't like having to buy extra mats and extra pieces just to make it work. But I got a screaming deal on it so that's ok. I think if I had a silhouette I might not have bought the big kick, but I don't know.


 
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Loved the Big Kick,,,,,,but love the Spellbinders Grand Calibur more,,,,,,,,

I can cut more dies at once due to the larger cutting plate size,,,,,,

and although I was out of warranty, and told them HONESTLY that I was out of warranty,,,,Spellbinders opted to fix my Grand Calibur FREE TO ME when it broke recently.

ask me how shocked I was,,,,,,,If it ever does break,,,,,,,,I'll buy another GC in a heartbeat.


 
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  • Jarvae Said:
Within 2 weeks I had ordered the Expression so that I could cut 12x12 paper. I barely used my smaller cricut because I didn't like being limited to a 6" piece of paper.

If you are doing cards, that might be fine, but if you are doing layouts, I highly recommend getting something that does 12x12 at least.


As an alternate viewpoint, I do almost entirely 12x12 scrapbooking and have never used my Cricut to make a card, and now over three years after I bought it I am still perfectly delighted with my small 6"x12" Cricut and have no desire to upgrade.


 
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and as yet another viewpoint, lol,

I wanted to upgrade, couldn't WAIT to upgrade, even though I've not done a 12x12 in years,,,,,all I make are cards,,,

I finally DID upgrade,,,,,,,,and I shouldn't have bothered LOL

I never use the 12x12 capacity


 
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It really depends on what you are looking for but I would suggest the cameo because you have more versatility then you do with the cricut. The big shot is also a pretty awesome product to have as well.


 
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Thanks for all the help. I'd mainly like to use the machine for lettering help. (sick of stickers)Do any of the machines come with alphabet dies?


 
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  • Vae on 02-28-13 03:52 PM
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If you are doing lettering then i would highly recommend an electronic cutter because then you can change the fonts and the sizes of the letters, plus you don't have to arrange any dies. Also I don't usually see a ton of alpha dies at the stores... maybe I just don't notice them though.

As for what comes with the machine, it depends on what you buy. My cricut expression came with 2 cartridges that both had fonts, but I've seen some cricuts sold with only one cart, some sold with none... just depends on how they bundle it wherever you buy it.

The cameo lets you cut any letters using the fonts on your computer. Oh, how I wish I had that right now!


 
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  • Jarvae Said:
If you are doing lettering then i would highly recommend an electronic cutter because then you can change the fonts and the sizes of the letters, plus you don't have to arrange any dies. Also I don't usually see a ton of alpha dies at the stores... maybe I just don't notice them though.

As for what comes with the machine, it depends on what you buy. My cricut expression came with 2 cartridges that both had fonts, but I've seen some cricuts sold with only one cart, some sold with none... just depends on how they bundle it wherever you buy it.

The cameo lets you cut any letters using the fonts on your computer. Oh, how I wish I had that right now!




I agree,,,,,

I'd seriously consider an electronic cutter that uses computer cutting files,,,,,,you probably have many fonts in yoru computer and new fonts can cost just dollars (if not free),,,,,cartridges are 20-50 dollars each.

since you'll be using it for letters, an electronic cutter will allow you to resize those fonts easily,,,,,,

you might consider this machine,,,,,,it's basically a smaller cameo,,,,,,,,and the price tag is smaller to go along with it,,

My husband just bought me one, and I can't WAIT to get it,,,,,



 
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I agree with the others....if you mostly want it for lettering, then get the Cameo or Portrait...

You can cut out any font on your computer and the Silhouette store has many fonts to purchase as well! You can resize, weld fonts together to make word art etc....
I love it and don't need to buy any alphas again....I just make whatever I want on the Cameo.

Alison


 
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Yup--a Silhouette machine is definitely what you want then. If you scrapbook 12x12 I would highly recommend the Cameo because you will soon love having all of that space to cut designs other than letters. I started with the Silhouette SD (now discontinued) and it only cut 8.5x11. It was great, but once they came out with the Cameo I jumped on that right away because there were so many times I couldn't cut what I wanted because I needed a bigger cutting space!


 
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I have a Cricut Expression and E2...love them both! I just bought scal software for the expression but haven't used it yet


 
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