Username Post: ATG - placement issues        (Topic#1592695)
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  • Vae on 12-05-13 01:57 PM

Hi everyone! I was working on some cards last night and I was using my ATG. I have no issues using the device itself... I love it! But it's SO sticky that when I'm trying to do a double mat or something like that, it often sticks down before I have a chance to get it lined up properly. Does anyone else have this issue and what tricks do you know to keep it from happening?


 
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Yes it is really sticky and it will stick to any place it gets near. As long as you do not press it down it will (most times) peel right up. I keep Undu handy for those times.


 
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Yeah...when they say permanent...they mean permanent!! I've wondered if they make an initially repositional tape?


 
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I find the same thing although if I use a good quality paper I have a better chance of repositioning it. The really cheap paper (which I use a lot of because I shop mostly by theme)is not tolerant for repositioning.

I'm a bit afraid now of anything marked repositionable Chris because I'm scanning all my old books and having them printed.

When I started scanning the books I did 4 or 5 years ago when I was new and only used repositionable adhesive - those really fell apart. I had to patch them all back and adhere everything down again before I could scan them.

However, I agree with you - it would be great to have a window where you could reposition things easily to get them straight.


 
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Sometimes It's a yeah, I meant for it to look like that!

I just try to hold it up above the other a little till I get it right, but it does seem to reach out and grab just where you don't want it to stick.


 
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Yes that happens to me too. However my cricut spatula really comes in handy to help lift things without tearing. I've also been successful in lifting pictures/paper that have even been down a few days, but I have to use the spatula. The quality of paper is a definite factor too, but the spatula is a necessity for me when using my ATG.


 
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I sometimes use a pair of tweezers to position an item before placing it down


 
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  • stick on 12-05-13 08:03 PM
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The easiest way I've found to handle a double mat is to cut the smaller one, glue it down, and only then cut the bigger mat down to size so the smaller one is situated exactly where you want it.

Or purposely do crooked/asymmetrical/off- kilter placements, which can often look more dynamic and interesting than a formal alignment.


 
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  • Vae on 12-05-13 08:13 PM
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The paper I'm using right now is Bazzill and once it sticks there is no getting it unstuck without tearing the paper. I have been able to get it to come up with a string of dental floss but it's still showing creases in the top layer where i had to peel it up. I think I'm gonna go get some wax paper and try that as a barrier on the bottom half while I position the top half. I'll report back!


 
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  • Vae on 12-05-13 10:43 PM
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Update - the wax paper worked but just a short way in I needed to change out my tape roll. I had totally forgotten that they put non-stick paper in the boxes to keep the rolls from sticking together. I started using that instead and it worked like a charm! It is thicker paper and much easier to work with than the wax paper. I'm just using it in the lower half of the mat to keep it from sticking while I'm trying to line up the top. YAY!


 
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What a fantastic idea Vae!! I could do that on a corner very easily! The pre-stick always seems to happen when I am laying down a large piece if paper...like 9x9 or larger...this should do the trick! Thanks for experimenting!

Henri...I know what you mean about the repositionable tape...a lit of my earlier work has to be rescued too...I used scotch photo splits that did not hold well!


 
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I'm going to try that Vae - I never even though of that and it could really help to get things lined up just right before putting them down!


 
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I've found that if I use some UnDo on it, I can move it and it is still sticky. That's the only thing that works for me. You're right about it being sticky. It says it's super sticky and it sure is!


 
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LOL my family thinks crooked is part of my style!!


 
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I am so with you Grammy24


 
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Everybody always talks about how great UnDo is...so I finally bought some a year or two ago, but I never have the nerve to actually try it. By the time I decide to be brave, I'll probably find out it all evaporated


 
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Judy, ur so funny!


 
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Great idea Vae. Stick's way works too and I can relate to the "reaches out and grabs" onto what ever it is I am not ready for it to grab. LOL


 
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...that is why I stand up a lot when placing paper on paper. I have used Undu when necessary also.


 
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I also stand up when placing something on my page. I have more control over where it goes.


 
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This is one reason I use a Page In Progress box. After I have my design worked out, I decide the order in which everything should be stuck down. Then I surround/frame each piece in succession with magnets (I bought extra so there are plenty), carefully lift the piece out of the "frame," apply the adhesive, place it back in the "frame" and firmly press it down, remove the magnets and move on to the next piece. Because the pieces cannot stray, the bottle of Un-Du has not been used for a long time now.

P.S. Henri Jean, thanks for all your contributions to this forum. I have learned a lot from you and have enjoyed reading your posts very much.


Edited by Ms. Fit on 12-08-13 02:28 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.


 
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You are so sweet although I'm a novice here compared to really experienced scrappers.

I am in awe of the artists that use paint and masks and sprays - things I have no idea how to use or what to do with them!

Please tell me more about the Page In Progress system. I have never heard of that and it sounds helpful! I'm having trouble visualizing it!


 
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  • Vae on 12-08-13 10:11 PM
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I've used undo a few times. Sometimes a quick run of dental floss works. I was working on cards and needed to make over 30. I didn't have time to undu on all of them, and I cut all my pieces at once, so that part was done. I must have some kind of forcefield on my table that causes it to "reach out and grab" whatever is near. Maybe it really is the dry air here lately with running the heaters all day but I was having a heck of a time and it took me forever (okay more like an hour) just to do 5 mats. Then when I tried this waxed paper thing I got the other 25 done in less than 15 minutes. It went from lots of growling and 4 letter words to Mrs Smileypants lol. Gotta love it when you discover a little trick that takes away so much frustration.


 
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Oh Vae, your new pics is glorious. You are stunning again.


 
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Henri, Scrapbook used to sell the Page In Progress box here but they have disappeared. They are made by Cropperware and can be Googled for retail purchase. They have a website at http://pagesinprogress.com/shopping.html and if you take a look, you will see they are very simple. I recall some of the reviewers on this site did not like them -- said they were just an overpriced cardboard box. They are not. The base has a magnetic field embedded in it. The magnets are very strong so you can tack a LO down, put the lid on and carry it wherever you like. I bought extra magnets (a different brand) so that I would have plenty to use them as described above. Once I got used to it, I found I could not scrap without it. I usually do 2-page LO's so set 2 boxes side by side while working out my design. I never have to stick anything down until it's exactly the way I want it, and yet everything is held firmly in place. It fits the way I work and the limited space within which I have to work.


 
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I'm in San Diego right now but when I get home I need to check that out. I would love to find a way to end my crooked photo placements! Thanks for the info!


 
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  • Vae Said:
Update - the wax paper worked but just a short way in I needed to change out my tape roll. I had totally forgotten that they put non-stick paper in the boxes to keep the rolls from sticking together. I started using that instead and it worked like a charm! It is thicker paper and much easier to work with than the wax paper. I'm just using it in the lower half of the mat to keep it from sticking while I'm trying to line up the top. YAY!





Thanks for this tip Vae


 
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